[Bent] Bent Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3

Allen Herman allenher at gmail.com
Wed Dec 2 19:06:28 EST 2009


I was involved with the transition of SCU my local bike club into an
official non profit several years ago.  No way does MARS want to go that
route.  As long as there are five or so "officers" minding the vault I would
just leave everything alone.  $2100 will be way below any official legal
radar.  Little old lady in trouble just send her some money.  Keep it
simple.

 I also advanced the idea of asking for recommendations for official non
profit organizations (501C) to donate the money to.  Split it up maybe five
ways, write checks and send it off.  No value decisions here, just send me a
copy of their official brochure demonstrating they are an official non
profit and they get some money.  Didn't want to ignite a nasty discussion
just wanted to clean out a bloated bank account.

What finally happened?  A story for another day but you should know I have
put way too much thought into decisions like this.

Hope to see some of you out on the road.

Al Herman

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM, <bent-request at list.marsride.org> wrote:

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> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:57:01 -0500
> From: Paul John <phjohn at nycap.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bent] MARS finances
> To: "NY/NJ/CT/PA Metro Area Recumbent Society \(MARS\)"
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> How about donating the money to this widow, or someone cycling-related
> in similar circumstances?
>
>
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/3062031/Drink-driving-victim-s-partner-plans-to-move-away
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> pj
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> On Dec 2, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Sfriedlander2 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Shelly asked about our finances. The MARS treasury still has about
> > $2100 - money left over from about 5 years ago when we used to
> > collect dues ($10/person) and had a few expenses. Since then, there
> > hasn't been any financial activity - we haven't collected dues, our
> > insurance policy lapsed, and our website is dormant.
> >
> > Any suggestions what to do with the money?
> > Shelly, are you still the president of MARS?
> >
> > Steve Friedlander
> > MARS Treasurer (as far as I know)
> >
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> From: Andrew Douglas <adouglas at optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [Bent] MARS finances
> To: bent at list.marsride.org
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> When the website went onto Warren Beauchamp's server he asked us to
> provide a small amount each year to cover his bandwidth costs. I know
> that happened up until I ceded control of the site. After that Warren
> emailed me about it and I referred him to Steve.
>
> Nothing is free.
>
> That's all I know. If you haven't given him anything and he hasn't
> asked, then I guess there's nothing due.
>
> By the way, if whoever has the current password for the website would
> be so kind, I'd appreciate it if you could remove my email address
> from the various pages on which it appears. I still get queries from
> newcomers, who I refer to the MARS mailing list. It's not really a
> problem and I'm happy to give a prompt and courteous response to
> anyone who emails me, but since I'm not active MARS business really
> shouldn't be directed my way. I asked Joao (who I gave the password
> to) to do this, but he never did.
>
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> > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:01:07 EST
> > From: Sfriedlander2 at aol.com
> > Subject: [Bent] MARS finances
> > To: bent at list.marsride.org
> > Message-ID: <d5f.5f79b9c5.3847db33 at aol.com>
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> >
> > Shelly asked about our finances. The MARS treasury still has about
> > $2100 -
> > money left over from about 5 years ago when we used to collect dues
> > ($10/person)  and had a few expenses. Since then, there hasn't been
> > any financial
> > activity  - we haven't collected dues, our insurance policy lapsed,
> > and our
> > website  is dormant.
> >
> > Any suggestions what to do with the money?
> > Shelly, are you still the president of MARS?
> >
> > Steve Friedlander
> > MARS Treasurer (as far as I know)
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/30/2009 3:32:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > dogzndrumz at aol.com writes:
> >
> > Felt good to be  inspired by a 12 year old for a change!!
> > I was having such a great time  watching it....I couldn't decide if I
> > should go ride or watch the  other  2 parts!
> >
> > It gets better so find pt 2&3
> >
> > Don't Stop  Riding
> > Shelly
> > PS; how are our finances?
> >
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:17:54 -0500
> > From: Old Pokey <oldandpokey at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Bent] MARS finances
> > To: "NY/NJ/CT/PA Metro Area Recumbent Society (MARS)"
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> > Party!
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:01 AM,  <Sfriedlander2 at aol.com> wrote:
> >> Shelly asked about our finances. The MARS treasury still has about
> >> $2100 -
> >> money left over from about 5 years ago when we used to collect dues
> >> ($10/person) and had a few expenses. Since then, there hasn't been
> >> any
> >> financial activity -?we haven't collected dues, our insurance
> >> policy lapsed,
> >> and our website is dormant.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions what to do with the money?
> >> Shelly, are you still the president of MARS?
> >>
> >> Steve Friedlander
> >> MARS Treasurer (as far as I know)
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 11/30/2009 3:32:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> dogzndrumz at aol.com writes:
> >>
> >> Felt good to be inspired by a 12 year old for a change!!
> >> I was having such a great time watching it....I couldn't decide if
> >> I should
> >> go ride or watch the? other 2 parts!
> >>
> >> It gets better so find pt 2&3
> >>
> >> Don't Stop Riding
> >> Shelly
> >> PS; how are our finances?
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:07:27 +0000
> From: Joao de Souza <cyclinglemur at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bent] MARS finances
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> Andy.  I did remove your email from the site a while ago.
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> From: Old Pokey <oldandpokey at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bent] MARS finances
> To: "NY/NJ/CT/PA Metro Area Recumbent Society (MARS)"
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> That would be ok too.
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Paul John <phjohn at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > How about donating the money to this widow, or someone cycling-related in
> > similar circumstances?
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/3062031/Drink-driving-victim-s-partner-plans-to-move-away
> >
> > pj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 2, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Sfriedlander2 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >  Shelly asked about our finances. The MARS treasury still has about $2100
> > - money left over from about 5 years ago when we used to collect dues
> > ($10/person) and had a few expenses. Since then, there hasn't been any
> > financial activity - we haven't collected dues, our insurance policy
> lapsed,
> > and our website is dormant.
> >
> > Any suggestions what to do with the money?
> > Shelly, are you still the president of MARS?
> >
> > Steve Friedlander
> > MARS Treasurer (as far as I know)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:22:21 -0500
> From: dogzndrumz at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Bent] MARS finances
> To: bent at list.marsride.org
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>  I guess so..????
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sfriedlander2 at aol.com
> To: bent at list.marsride.org
> Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2009 10:01 am
> Subject: [Bent] MARS finances
>
>
>
> Shelly asked about our finances. The MARS treasury still has about $2100 -
> money left over from about 5 years ago when we used to collect dues
> ($10/person) and had a few expenses. Since then, there hasn't been any
> financial activity - we haven't collected dues, our insurance policy lapsed,
> and our website is dormant.
>
> Any suggestions what to do with the money?
> Shelly, are you still the president of MARS?
>
> Steve Friedlander
> MARS Treasurer (as far as I know)
>
>
> In a message dated 11/30/2009 3:32:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> dogzndrumz at aol.com writes:
>
> Felt good to be   inspired by a 12 year old for a change!!
> I was having such a great time   watching it....I couldn't decide if I
> should go ride or watch the  other   2 parts!
>
> It gets better so find pt 2&3
>
> Don't Stop   Riding
> Shelly
> PS; how are our finances?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:24:56 -0500
> From: Old Pokey <oldandpokey at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bent] MARS finances
> To: "NY/NJ/CT/PA Metro Area Recumbent Society (MARS)"
>        <bent at list.marsride.org>
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> Oh sorry.  I was referring to giving the money to the families of biking
> accidents rather that spending it on a party.  I was deferring to JT's
> judgment and leadership.
>
> OP
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM, <dogzndrumz at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >  I guess so..????
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sfriedlander2 at aol.com
> > To: bent at list.marsride.org
> > Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2009 10:01 am
> > Subject: [Bent] MARS finances
> >
> >   Shelly asked about our finances. The MARS treasury still has about
> $2100
> > - money left over from about 5 years ago when we used to collect dues
> > ($10/person) and had a few expenses. Since then, there hasn't been any
> > financial activity - we haven't collected dues, our insurance policy
> lapsed,
> > and our website is dormant.
> >
> > Any suggestions what to do with the money?
> > Shelly, are you still the president of MARS?
> >
> > Steve Friedlander
> > MARS Treasurer (as far as I know)
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/30/2009 3:32:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > dogzndrumz at aol.com writes:
> >
> > Felt good to be inspired by a 12 year old for a change!!
> > I was having such a great time watching it....I couldn't decide if I
> should
> > go ride or watch the  other 2 parts!
> >
> > It gets better so find pt 2&3
> >
> > Don't Stop Riding
> > Shelly
> > PS; how are our finances?
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
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